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Elephant Seals' Dives Show Slowdown in Ocean Circulation

Data from instruments mounted on elephant seals reveal that melting ice flushes fresh water into the Southern Ocean, suppressing an important arm of the global ocean circulation belt.

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Melting glaciers often brings to mind sea level rise—coastal cities inundated with several meters of water or popular tourist spots and landmarks poking out of waves. But another, less vivid effect of climate change on the world’s oceans is coming to light: a slowing of the global ocean circulation that brings warm water and nutrients to the poles and cold water to the equator.

Scientists, with help from an armada of elephant seals wearing scientific instruments, found that fresh water leaching from melting glaciers disrupts the formation of the Antarctic Bottom Water (AABW), a layer of deep, cold ocean water—a process that drives the southern half of the global conveyor belt.

“This suppression is likely to be already underway in the other key AABW regions around Antarctica,” said Guy Williams, an observational polar oceanographer at the University of Tasmania in Australia. He and his colleagues published a paper about their findings on 23 August in Nature Communications.

The Global Conveyor Belt

The ocean isn’t just waves on top of a static block of water—distinct layers, stacked on top of each other, swirl around the Earth, distinguishable by their temperature or saltiness. These different layers drive the thermohaline circulation—the global conveyor belt of water that moves heat and nutrients around the globe, brings oxygen down to the lower layers of the ocean, and helps the ocean absorb heat caused by excess carbon dioxide.

In several locations along Antarctica’s coastline, strong winds whip away sea ice, exposing areas of bare ocean called polynyas. These areas are important to the AABW, which drives the southern arm of the global ocean circulation. When sea ice forms in the ephemeral polynyas, it ejects salt, creating a heavy, briny water that sinks to the ocean’s floor.

“Polynyas can generate sufficient sea ice growth to produce dense shelf waters around Antarctica,” Williams said.

The researchers honed in on one less understood area: Cape Darnley Polynya in East Antarctica, which is thought to be an important source of this dense shelf water. The researchers also wanted to better understand its relationship with the nearby Prydz Bay, which hosts its own set of wind-swept polynyas.

Armada of Seals

There’s only so much modeling and theorizing that a scientist can do, Williams said, and frigid polar waters are often too hostile for direct observations from research cruises or field work. In the Arctic, thermometer-wearing narwhals have helped scientists detect rising sea temperatures in Baffin Bay, between northern Canada and Greenland.

For this new research, it was time to call in aid from some of the Southern Ocean’s natural-born swimmers—elephant seals.

Armed with small instruments glued to their heads, elephant seals have helped scientists profile much of the Southern Ocean since the early 2000s. Like living, breathing Argo floats, these 4000-kilogram blubbery creatures dive down for food, sometimes 1000 meters deep and into the AABW, Williams said.

The seals’ dives provide a complete profile of the water column, including temperature and salinity, through key masses of water like the deep shelf water that drives the AABW. The animals dive throughout autumn, winter, and spring, allowing researchers to see what happens to the water column during this time.

Fresh Fears

The researchers looked closely at Prydz Bay and Cape Darnley, using a subset of elephant seal data from the Marine Mammals Exploring the Oceans Pole to Pole data set from 2011–2013. The seals’ instruments detected an ominous phenomenon along the continental shelf: fresh water flushing in from glacier melt.

Because this water contains less salt and thus is less dense, it dilutes and subtly suppresses the formation of the Prydz Bay dense water, which in turn affects the Cape Darnley bottom water. In particular, fresh water was coming from the Amery glacier and the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

“Dense shelf water is still forming in this location, the polynyas are still doing their job,” Williams noted. “It is just now more obvious when we see the big picture, courtesy of the amazing coverage of the seal data in space and time, that this formation is being ‘held back,’ so to speak, by the local ice shelves.”

Scientists have observed this effect in the Arctic as well, said Stefan Rahmstorf, an oceanographer and climatologist at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, who wasn’t involved in the new paper. Last year, Rahmstorf and his colleagues used a reconstruction of North Atlantic sea surface temperatures and found that fresh water from glacier melt triggered a slowdown of the overturning circulation in the 1970s. Ice loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet may be enough to dilute the salty deep water enough to weaken the circulation.

“The new study reaffirms such concerns also for the Antarctic ocean,” Rahmstorf said. It “significantly improves our understanding of the details of bottom water production around Antarctica.”

—JoAnna Wendel, Staff Writer

Citation: Wendel, J. (2016), Elephant seals’ dives show slowdown in ocean circulation, Eos, 97, doi:10.1029/2016EO057993. Published on 23 August 2016.
© 2016. The authors. CC BY-NC-ND 3.0
  • Jaeger

    “Rawr! Wait, what’s that red stuff on the ice?”

  • Jerry Langford

    ok since comments are being removed

    FBI screwed up in Thailand in such a way

    AS to – bring conflict WITH the US and China now

    HOW ?

    Bout WAS supplying arms to Hmong people

    NOW – Quang is out of control

    NOW Quang on ONE HAND just got an open contract with US Department of Defense

    ON THE BACK SIDE- to where LANGLEY AND FBI screwed up ?

    THREE SENIORS from China have met with Quang –

    and now ?

    THANKS to that CHEAP WORK in Thailand ?

    on Viktor ?

    US has DISRUPTED what COULD HAVE PREVENTED Quang from EVER taking office

    and now ?

    GUESS WHAT

    Quang is on board with China, NOT the United States.

    And GUESS WHAT ?

    PLOT 119 ? EXXON ?

    THE LARGEST ? FIND ? in oil and natural gas in South East Asia ?

    GUESS WHAT MORONS

    YOU FUCKTARDS

    GUESS WHERE THAT GOES NOW?

    Ha- Exxon will LEAN on CIA and DOJ MORE than we can

    but we own ALL THREE

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • Jerry Langford

    OK

    to be CLEAR

    AS WITH THE Pine Island Glacier

    UNSTOPPABLE

    We are GLOBAL and we ARE NOT CENTRALIZED

  • Jerry Langford

    US Department of State soon to be retirees can ask themselves over and over

    ‘wait – this was all because some comments were removed’ ?

    BYE

  • Jerry Langford

    I’m done with this thread

    HOWEVER

    It is MOST REVEALING in what is NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE PRESS

    the only question is…

    WHY- and WHO

    We don’t have to say why – and we don’t have to answer to a ‘who’

    BP integration with Hayward in Cayman’s – NEXT RELEASE

    HAVE A NICE FUCKING DAY WHOEVER REMOVED MY COMMENTS

    TIME TO RELEASE THE HOUNDS

    I’ve been SOFT BALL UP UNTIL NOW

    FREE SPEECH ?

    No –

    clearly

    UNSTOPPABLE RELEASE OF FINANCIAL DATA CORNERING SAUDI ARABIA ? and BP ?

    Hey

    GOOD LUCK controlling the Bitcoin Blockchain

    THE POINTERS ARE ALREADY THERE LOCKED AND LOADED

    NEVER REMOVE CONTENT

    EVER

  • Jerry Langford

    That’s A DOUBLE NEGATE DOJ

  • Jerry Langford

    I’m putting my head on the chopping block

    trying to bring attention TO this article

    hope anyone understands

    Sad EOS or Disqus has opted to eradicate my comments

    Doesn’t matter

    I can try right ?

    Thanks for the understanding

    IF EOS has been bullied out of allowing these comments ?

    Pensions will fly

    We’ll start with… hmmm

    WHERE TO START

    OH silly me – US Insurance sector brings down community and commercial banks in 2017- news at WIKILEAKS

    It’s NOT AS IF

    I’m NOT taking you with me

    when I go

  • Jerry Langford

    BEYOND scope of THIS article

    and A BETTER warning sign

    Bioluminescence in the Indian ocean

    PATCHES

    are a GREATER warning sign – for the Pacific Ocean is DUMPING thermal energy into the Indian ocean

    it’s THAT FAR of a reach

    has to be an AMAZING sight for fishermen but …

    THREE hierarchies exists that prey on that which is bringing Bioluminescence to the Indian Ocean…

    ONE of the three – is VANISHING…

    You will NOT READ about that anywhere- it has not been published yet.

    HOWEVER – we are QUITE RESOURCEFUL in collecting data from

    well

    ANYTHING that is networked.

    INCLUDING POST GRADUATE students laptops.

    TOO BAD NSA can COLLECT data- but doesn’t know WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

    Maybe President Obama will get wind of our efforts

    and put ASIDE EVERYTHING

    and focus on – not protecting a habitat

    but PREVENTING DECIMATION of sea life –

    Even BETTER – make a – not 20%, not 10%, not 30% CUT in co2 emissions

    but a REACH For 100% CUT –

    AND CUT TRADE WITH ANY NATION THAT DOES NOT GET ON BOARD

    However China is SOON to reach Helium 3 – 2019, 2020 – TOPS.

    COAL and OIL sectors DIE when China goes online.

    Sometimes release of ‘confidential’ information CAN BENEFIT humanity

  • Jerry Langford

    To be clear- Iran was WELL within rights to send that missile.

    THAT it missed Hayward’s ship – hey – NOT MY PROBLEM

    JUST SAYING – SENTIMENT – of COURSE I do NOT support this course of action.

    Of course- I do NOT support what has NOW been reassembled from Langley’s SLOPPY WORK – on their declassified media regarding the ENTIRE – SO WRONG – meddling WITH Iran.

    Langley is living in 1993 – WE are living in 2016.. integrating distributed computational solutions GLOBALLY –

    In fact, MOST of my peers – if I DARE even SAY the word ‘CENTRALIZED’ – I will face conflict.

    HA- the CENTRAL Intelligence Agency- HA

    NO MORONS

    CASH OUT YOUR PENSIONS BEFORE WHO YOU SOLD OUT TO – ENDS YOUR SOVEREIGN CURRENCY- but hey – don’t take MY WORD FOR IT

    Go install IMVU and talk to MORE Saudi Princes than NSA OR CIA will EVER realize – have ears to listen.

    No fan of Saudi Arabia here –

    But OIL has DECIMATED the habitat for those life forms Elephant Seals live on ….

    HEY FOOLS

    WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE DIVING LESS DEEP ?

    THIS ARTICLE didn’t EXPLORE …. WHAT THEY EAT

    and WHY THOSE LIFE FORMS are MOVING TOP LAYER

    I ONLY WISH

    President Obama – forget SECURING Hawaii off shore

    NO – I ONLY WISH President Obama would FOCUS ON THESE ELEPHANT SEALS DIVING HABITS

    and what the changes infer.

    I AM PRO HUMANITY

    DO NOT EVER GET ME WRONG ON THAT

    Ideologies ? they come and go –

    HUMANITY is what GOT US HERE – and what will TAKE US INTO that DARK NIGHT

    and might I end this entire diatribe with

    THAT BRIGHT DAY 🙂

  • Jerry Langford

    No one gets it

    These Elephant Seals are showing us what is in store for us.

    ALL the kings horseman – and ALL the kings men

    can’t figure out what to make of the data

    WE HAVE

    WE HAVE over 18,000 graphics cards at our resources –

    OH THEY THINK they are mining alt coins – OH NO

    WE PAY

    SURE everyone is HAPPY

    Keith Alexander ? I TOLD YOU – you don’t HAVE THE TALENT – you never thought of this approach did you.

    No -it’s not a BOT NET FBI – no – it’s RENTED RESOURCES

    And we DO ANALYZE PACIFIC SEA TEMPERATURE DATA – we TRACK INDIAN OCEAN SEA TEMPERATE DATA – we SEE THE CONNECTION

    These Elephant Seals CHANGING their DIVE DEPTH

    SHOULD BE A COST SAVINGS APPROACH to US DoD Thermohaline studies !!!!

    MORONS

    I see what’s happening

    US insurance sector collapses on Texas flood claims in 2017, 2018 – and MY GOD – 2021/2022?

    more like LAKE Texas

    LAKE Louisiana – but hey -let’s go chase ghosts in the deserts from regions of natives we’ve provoked exploiting their natural resources otherwise known as OIL.

    CIA – Dulles- ENDS LANGLEY –

    At LEAST Copeland had a sense of humor LANGLEY

    SO SICK IMF was EVER USED to broker MORE TANKERS ! MORE LOANS !

    That WAS THE GAME YOU RAN – RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT ?

    HELL YEAH IT WAS – WE HAVE EVERYTHING

    and when I SAY EVERYTHING

    You can speed Dial Keith Alexander at NSA and ask

    HOW WAS THIS EVER POSSIBLE ?

    Well guess what

    Keith ENABLED US

    When PORTER SAID – PLAY BALL OR GET LOST

    GUESS WHAT ?

    WE GOT LOST

    HAVE A NICE DAY LANGLEY – NSA –

    To FBI ? I have the HIGHEST LEVEL OF RESPECT FOR YOU

    TO DOJ – eh- UPPER 90’s – you KNOW WHO YOU ARE as to what doesn’t make it 100%

    As to President Obama ? I have 100% respect for.

    I HOPE he does something to CLEAN HOUSE –

    of the CORPORATE OIL PROFITEERING that has LED to these Elephant Seals DIVING in LESS DEEP WATERS.

    Oh sure – LESS CALORIES the Elephant Seals say- burned – SURE – but LESS FOOD –

    We have WRECKED SO MANY SPECIES LIFE FORMS in the name of people pushing oil for so long…

    JUST so they can perpetuate some SENSE of ‘PSEUDO-MONARCHY’ as I call it

    TO LIVE AS A KING or a QUEEN -hey – Tony Hayward at BP – yeah – when you HAVE 27 BILLION IN ASSETS – you CAN PRETEND to be a king

    But Tony – let us not forget that ONE DAY off the coast of Iran – and DAMN IT – I REALLY WISH THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL THAT DAY – YOU KNOW WHAT I AM REFERRING TO.

    Regards

  • Jerry Langford

    By the way- it’s a REAL INTENSE SCENE to see Mossad AND ISI eating at the same table.

  • Jerry Langford

    It is TIME United Central Intelligence Agency AND the United States Department of State

    has BEEN EXPOSED

    for PROMOTING

    OIL –

    at the EXPENSE

    of ALL HUMAN BEINGS TO POSSIBLY EXIST moving forward.

    NO PRICE – NO PROFIT – NO ABUSE OF A JUDICIAL BRANCH of ANY NATION STATE

    WILL BE TOLERATED

    you think Deep Panda was the WORST that HIT THE US Department of Defense

    THINK AGAIN

    DO NOT PROVOKE US

    GOOD DAY and MAY You SEE THE LIGHT to SERVE – not a nation state SOLD OUT to corporate oil -but HUMANITY.

    If you have any questions – please submit them to LLAMACOIN on FREENODE

    The crypto coin SO ADVANCED- SO AHEAD OF IT’S TIME

    It doesn’t EVEN NEED TO exist.

    Sorry NSA – you can’t participate – there ARE ZERO LLAMACOiNs released to date.

    Next LLAMACOiN convention though – Langley ? we have ALL flavors – MOSSAD – ISI – NAME IT

    We provide FREE FIRST CLASS AIR FARE and a nice BUFFET !

    What do YOU PROVIDE?

  • Jerry Langford

    I ain’t no monkey

    but I know what I like

    I’m taking you with me

    when I go

    THAT extends to CIA, NSA and DOJ

    To DOJ – DEEPLY EXPLORE the coastal properties LIQUIDATED by Countrywide

    “Hi – I’m JUDY – Live on the beach ? NO NAME ? NO SSN ? NO JOB ? why COME ON DOWN – we’ll sign you up for a JUMBO MORTGAGE no questions asked – for a BEACH FRONT PROPERTY you can flip in 1 year”

    remember THOSE ADS?

    California – is facing INSURANCE nightmares as a result of what these Elephant Seals are revealing

    As to East Coast ? AS THAT THC slows – that 15 feet implied deficit of sea level – will DECIMATE the NYC sea wall- AIG is ALREADY DUMPING their flood insurance ancillaries.

    DOJ ?

    If you HAVE A PURPOSE – TRACK JUST WHY ? ever ask WHY ? the MORTGAGE MOVE in 2006 ? HAPPENED?

    It is ALL TIED to what the Elephant Seals are revealing

    and what DoD concluded on East Coast

    AND WOODS HOLE

    LIFE IS SAD

    Life is a BUST

    all you can do

    is do what you MUST

    you do what you must do

    and you do it well

    I do it for you

    HONEY BABY (DOJ) can’t you tell ?

    WE WILL GIVE FBI EVERY PIECE OF DATA THEY NEED TO COMPLETE THIS PICTURE

    LEGAL ? AS TO HOW ACQUIRED?

    Hey – I can NOT CONTROL WHO DROPS OFF WHAT AT OUR DOOR STEP

    Acquired implies ACTIVE –

    DROPPED OFF

    I LOATHE BLACK HAT –

    I’m WHITE HAT AS FAR AS THE SUNSET RIDES ON A GOOD DAY IN THE PACIFIC

    I’ve been MEEK

    and HARD LIKE OAK

    I’ve seen pretty people DISAPPEAR like smoke

    Friends will arise – and friends will disappear

    NASA has an ‘EXTREME ZONE’ off the southern coast of California

    SAME place as the source for these VERY Elephant Seals –

    QUESTION IS – WHY… is THIS SPOT SO HOT ?

    WHOEVER CAN SOLVE THAT ?

    can maybe by the US Insurance sector 2 more years before going bust.

    FBI ? and if not – hey- no SOVEREIGN CURRENCY – after insurance corporations go ? BANKS FOLLOW – they can’t hold assets NOT INSURED – CIA ? you GOONS – should NEVER HAVE BEEN – Bush did MORE DAMAGE THAN WE WILL EVER UNDERSTAND.

    I do by the way – as you know – have the Helms tape – 1974 – and WHAT IT HAS ON IT ?

    WILL DECIMATE LANGLEY

    Hey – when Porter Goss came in as DCI under Bush

    he SENT OUT A MEMO

    PERHAPS you know what it said

    perhaps not

    IT SAID “PLAY BALL OR GET LOST”

    I HAVE … the GOD DAMNED HELMS TAPE

    and GUESS WHAT LANGLEY

    LET US PLAY BALL – and GO AHEAD – bring DOJ IN BETWEEN US

    I WILL KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK

    Have a nice day

  • Jerry Langford

    I STILL contend – sure the Washington Post cloned this article- I wasn’t SURE at first if they MERELY reversed the image of the Elephant Seal – but they seem to have come up with their own unique image –

    NO DOUBT where THAT image came from – I ALREADY KNOW who the team member is who took it- and I have ALL – oh never mind – we are THOROUGH

    Hey – Car, phone, home – IF it’s one the wire- NSA has proven it’s AVAILABLE

    If you want me – ha

    but – look-

    SURE WAPO took this article and rebranded it

    BUT I CONTENT- STILL – THIS was the FIRST SPARK at EOS.

    EOS for the win

    We stand with EOS

    and I will do WHAT I CAN to bring ENOUGH ATTENTION TO THIS ARTICLE

    I’ll even put myself up on the chopping block

    THIS IS BIG folks

    This is FIRST TIME – South Pole influence on Thermohaline –

    I follow SO many resources, the BIG message I get across the board is the Pacific is NOW emitting MORE heat than it absorbs.

    This fits with this article.

    Credos Trench will reveal all – you’ll see.

    The WORST IS – United States Department of Defense NEVER MADE PUBLIC

    the results of their study on ATLANTIC Thermohaline slowdown.

    And I find THAT A CRIME against humanity.

    When the insurance sector FAILS because it can NOT HANDLE THE CLAIMS ?

    Maybe the can sue the DoD

    AT SOME POINT – you can’t run ‘threat to national security’

    AT SOME POINT – you HAVE TO RUN ‘THREAT TO FUTURE OF HUMANITY’

    PROXY OF SOLD OUT SAID NATION STATES UNMENTIONED BY INTENT.

    We can sink US DOJ ANY DAY ON Miami with Klaus Barbie –

    We can sink US CIA ANY DAY on the Gehlen cache we sit on –

    Saudi Arabia is NOT FRIEND TO US

    WE DO NOT – as US STATE DEPARTMENT WAIVERS IN FEAR to the Saudi’s ?

    WE DO NOT

    WE have NO CENTRALITY

    and yet ? we are EVERYWHERE

    CHOKE ON IT KEITH ALEXANDER –

    NSA end of day will result in SEVERE DAMAGE TO FTC VIOLATIONS and SEC VIOLATIONS

    you WILL SEE

    what CENTRALIZATION – including LANGLEY –

    brings

    EXPLOIT OF DATA

    DHS IS a threat to national security for the GAPING WIDE HOLES on trading/commodities violations that ARE STILL UNCHECKED BY THE FBI.

    The ONLY ORGANIZATION LEFT I FEEL I CAN TRUST IS FBI.

    At least they VET people – and don’t settle for less.

  • Jerry Langford

    Life is sad

    Life is a bust

    all you can do

    is do what you must

  • Joshua Rosenfeld

    Amazingly enough, the Earth and many species extant today have
    gone through several interglacials…AND SURVIVED!

    • Jerry Langford

      What a blanket complacency

      Could I bring up a multitude of species that have not survived ?

      MANY have not…

      Please- just choke me on your humanism

      What’s next? you’ll say ‘God would never allow this to happen’ ?

    • Jerry Langford

      This is NOT an interglacial –

      Perhaps you need to study Japan’s JAXA IBUKI data ?

      You look like you are up there in age Joshua – what do you care ?

      You probably have your own private personal afterlife program waiting in store for you –

      SURE you didn’t wear a suicide jacket in a public forum – however

      On an intellectual level ?

      You just did.

      PLEASE GET THE F OFF MY RETINA – however I can not control that which I can not control.

      Buckets of rain

      All hail for China’s – US DOJ and CIA doesn’t GET to claim ‘CLASSIFIED’ on this – because ? WHY ? it’s CHINA – but China has 11 people ON THE MOON in 2017 – MINING Helium 3.

      THAT is a PROMISE – and a REALITY

      End of Coal and oil and EVERY ECONOMIC MODEL THAT RIDES ON OIL AND COAL

      ENDS when China brings FUNCTIONAL Helium 3 fusion online.

      SORRY CIA, DOJ – and China – you can read ALL ABOUT IT AT WIKILEAKS.

      HAVE A NICE DAY

      WE DON’T SCREW AROUND

      HUMANITY FOR THE WIN !

    • LouiseStonington

      Yes, however, humans are not among the species that have ever lived in a world with over 400 ppm carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere. The excess CO2 will push temperatures up for decades, maybe centuries after we stop burning the fossil fuels that are the main cause of rising levels of CO2. The question therefor, is whether we can stop adding to the warming gases in time to keep sea levels from flooding coastal cities, and killing shellfish and tiny creatures that support the food chain in the sea, and risking dead zones in oceans where the thermohaline current has stopped and release of deadly quantities of methane from tundra.

    • Nedward Marbletoe

      In North America, most da kine species survived those UNTIL the last glacial/interglacial transition.

      Seems that combining rapid climate change with new human disturbance (even hunter-gatherer type) can be hazardous to your extinction probability (especially if you are a large mammal).

  • Jerry Langford

    The real challenge for some is to understand the difference between intentional hyperbole, purely anecdotal political fiction, and the hard cold reality of the effects of climate change resulting from corporate energy profiteering secured proxy of exploiting many of the nation states of the world, whether it be their executive branches, judicial branches or their legislative branches. I think we ALL can come up with some names for people involved in the selling out of the future of humanity for shiny coins they can spend ‘today’ – and just what they will do to keep their pseudo-monarchical lifestyle going – until – like the thermohaline currents, one day- it just stops.

    It’s interesting though, those that have collected so much sovereign currency as an asset through profiteering on metered energy solutions that have in great capacity CAUSED the climate changes we are witnessing will watch their sovereign currency dissolve before them as the insurance sectors collapse unable to pay for the flood claims, storm claims, and the health insurance sector can’t afford to pay for climate related health deficits, new bacterial infections, new viral threats as ‘comfortable’ temperature zones change for various life forms- virii included. Not to mention changes in insects/carriers – Zika anyone? which only moves northward. Poor Florida- already witnessing a hit to it’s life sustaining 20+ billion travel sector, we won’t see that aftermath until next year when people realize they didn’t make enough during season.

    But those who have taken SO many profits- will in turn wreck the very sovereign currency they hold – just as FBI Financial Crimes unit went to the White House – to warn President Bush of an oncoming mortgage crisis- to which Bush ? simply REMOVED THEM and put them on ‘terror watch’ – very suspect if you ask me -why ? Because I observed General Tommy Franks- the architect of the Afghanistan invasion, Iraq? I noticed he was given a seat on the board of directors at Bank of America, which BOUGHT countrywide, which it was COUNTRYWIDE that was liquidating, wait- WRONG WORD – but moving coastal properties proxy of brokers like Goldman – I also noticed Tommy gave UP that seat 1 month after I continued to complain – HOW IS IT ? THIS GUY ? gets a seat on BoD at BANK OF AMERICA ? Either way- KIND of like when FBI Financial Crimes unit tried to warn the White House- and the WH just snuffed them out? I see it coming – what’s going to happen is already happening – AIG’s selloff of Guaranty two weeks ago- the insurance sector will BREAK as a result of climate change and flooding, and THEN… the banks will TRULY be stuck with uninsured properties- and ? further ? if FEMA has to redistrict flood zones, as they SHOULD – this will lead to critically higher premiums that home owners and businesses won’t be able to afford, alas? one more blow to the insurance sector. Once banks are cornered with properties that are either uninsured? or can NOT be insured ? There will BE no bailout this time. LAST time was for the investment banks that brokered the liquidation OF these soon to be – VERY expensive properties to maintain, not because the property value goes up -but because INSURANCE PREMIUMS will go up.

    Indeed- these Elephant Seals – it’s 9 steps away if you connect it all but these Elephant Seals are hinting at the total collapse of the US Dollar. Then again – if the dollar IS pegged to oil ? as in ? Saudi’s have the US on a leash by extortion to sell off their Treasury debt they own ? One COULD argue the US Dollar is already in and of itself, a threat to humanity. For anything that promotes energy solutions that will harm future generations of humanity ? is a crime so great- no nation so great could possibly punish it.

    THIS crime- behind the causal factors of climate change is BIGGER than a nation state, THIS time, it’s not banks that are too big to fail, it’s nation states.

    Then again, a whole lot of boundaries of territorial nation states change when an abrupt sea level rise of 15 feet hits within a time frame of years- not decades (time frame, NOT start date)- but what these Seals are showing? Rahmstorf already knows is happening off of Greenland- THIS story is the FIRST story I have seen that covers SOUTH POLE salinity challenges.

    Changes in SOUTH POLE salinity affect California – US West Coast, Stanford puts California in drought for at LEAST 30 years with current models. THIS NEW DATA on THC’s from SOUTH POLE – this changes those models. Changes in NORTH POLE salinity affect the US EAST Coast – EXCESSIVE WATER. Hit from both sides- the insurance sector can NOT sustain it. The Federal government nearly BROKE itself spending 16 trillion to fix the mortgage crisis- which IS tied to climate change, SOMEWHERE I wish DOJ or FBI would RE-EXAMINE just WHY Goldman was SO EAGER to wrap up zero equity mortgages and get rid of them. I’ll TELL you why- Goldman used Washington Mutual (largest US bank failure in history as a result of this) to broker those mortgages to MOVE THEM while the MOVIN’ WAS GOOD.

    You only have to ask yourself WHY Dick Cheney almost blew a brain vein when NASA released a study showing sub tropics had advanced 30 miles north, Cheney put a GAG on NASA following that release, stating to NASA, EVERYTHING must come through the White House before ANY press release on climate change. I’ll TELL you what happened, they moved the mortgages while the movin’ was good. FBI and DOJ REALLY needs to RE-OPEN UP Goldman, WaMu- Bank of America and Countrywide – sit down and connect the dots.

    What these Elephant Seals are showing us ? confirms it ALL in retro. The REAL crisis looming economically as a result of what the Seals data is revealing as to South Pole slowdown? Is the forthcoming collapse of the insurance sector. I watched various insurance corporations on C-SPAN post Katrina – they had flood maps – showing decimation of the South US – maps Cheney had REMOVED from the EPA website – gee- I WONDER WHY ? they were demanding to congress they need to RAISE FURTHER – BEYOND the 400% rates for US East Coast policies. That they only HAVE – COLLECTIVELY – ALL the corporations, a total of 70 billion LEFT after Katrina to dole out for claims. No way Louisiana claims – and Texas, especially next year and years to follow – 2021/2022 will be the worst, 2022 is the peak solar cycle coupled with the peak temperature cycle that varies approximately 2 degrees I observe from NOAA charts.

    And somehow ? some lunatic rambling about Miles Copeland is the problem ?

    No – the REAL problem is not preparing – forget requiring banks to have capital on hand, finding a viable solution to cushion the insurance fallout would be much smarter. Unfortunately- Pine Island Glacier IS unstoppable – there is nothing that can stop it- it goes by 2030 – and with it – even a 4,000% increase on East Coast policies won’t make it affordable- with it goes – I don’t even WANT to think about what we’re in denial about here from Pine Island ALONE – I email TOP glaciologists in the WORLD – Pine Island is JUST the first – A NEW ONE in the West of Antarctica is now at the ‘tipping point’ –

    FIRST STEP though is probably at the Federal level – a review on how to mandate renewable energy, and simply pull the plug on corporate oil/coal/natural gas.

    99.8% of the life on this planet gets by using a HIGHLY functional fusion reactor some 90 million miles away, gee- why can’t we? Oh yeah- because SOME people get to carry out their FANTASY of Monarchy is alive and well when you earn over 10 billion a year- HEY – ANYONE SEEN BP’s Tony Hayward ? or Where’d George Bush go ?

    Vanished…

  • Jerry Langford

    While I’m no chemist, physicist, oceanographer, glaciologist ? I do so enjoy thinking and problem solving, and I have observed something missing in just about every article covering a potential slow down in the global conveyor belt, thermohaline currents, meridional overturning circulation – call it what you will.

    Just about every article I see ONLY mentions glacial melt diluting salt water- interfering with density of colder water with higher saline content, which sinks, pushing fresh water out of it’s way- thus creating the currents.

    However, there is a second issue going on here and I just don’t understand why I have not once – seen reference to it. And that is- the REFREEZING, the FREEZING process OF sea water, removes the salt from the ice, BUT – contributes (helps) to a greater saline content in that water which does not freeze. That HIGHER saline content water- I see ‘haline’ used for ‘salty’ and in oceanographic contexts and ‘saline’ used for ‘having salt’, but my point is – the process OF freezing, OF the cycling ice that forms (er, used to form?) at the North Pole? It’s when we LOSE that FREEZING process, the NEW ice cycle every year, THAT cycle is where you also get salt released which creates denser water and sinks.

    So it’s not JUST the melting process during the melt season, it’s ALSO the LACK of freezing that ALSO releases salt to create these denser haline waters that have given us livable climate for thousands of years.

    I’m just saying there is a second double whammy here, it’s not JUST the glacial melt that’s diluting the salt water- fish upstream with me on this – perhaps the WRONG image to use – but one must ask – WHERE does the salt come from ? It COMES FROM the process of ice forming, when sea water freezes, FRESH WATER ICE is formed and the salt ? FORMS the higher salt content that ALLOWS for the currents to exist in the first place.

    Basically, every article I see only refers to glacial melt diluting haline currents, but if you do not have a healthy freezing cycle? you won’t even HAVE haline currents TO dilute – Once you factor this in? it changes all models if you ask me.

    The REAL problem is the FAILURE TO FREEZE now, no freezing? no release of salt, no salt ? no salt water TO dilute – no salt water to dilute? no currents – no currents ? Hello Iceland’s new sister in extreme cold weather- Scotland and the UK.

    The absolute total downside to a slowdown in THC ? Woods Hole research iirc as source – shows that the US Eastern sea level WOULD be 15 feet higher right now, but because the THC’s DRAW WATER AWAY, it creates a deficit of 15 feet. As THC’s slow ? This isn’t covered in but ONE SINGLE academic paper I saw, or maybe it was the US Department of Defense study on potential slowdown of thermohaline currents, either way- US coast line could be looking at a 15 feet sea level rise in a temporal frame of under 10 years. 16 Trillion was spent bailing out AIG and Goldman and friends, but no amount of money can bail out 15 feet sea level rise on the US East Coast – Boston ? of all cities to mole out tunnels under the city ? Sea port city ? can’t imagine the insurance burdens from Boston alone. NYC’s sea wall won’t help – Woods Hole ALSO shows New York City to have the HIGHEST sea level rise OF the entire US east coast.

    FIFTEEN FEET DEFICIT – right now, but that changes FAST – if THC’s slow, or worse, as the US DoD explored- stop entirely.

    These Elephant Seals are hinting that we just MAY BE witnessing the beginning of the stoppage.

    I suppose if FEMA were to factor in this 15 feet deficit caused by THC’s ? insurance rates would rise SO fast on US East Coast (They are ALREADY at 400% and growing)? Oh, I think this driver is off course again.

  • Jerry Langford

    I’m happy to see the comments section was cleaned up – it seems things got a bit off topic.

    But those who have helped wreck the environment for future generations for profits to live as King for a day? should be held responsible, and the guest list to that party includes private corporate and government sectors (including executive branches at times, judicial branches -especially Scalia on coal lobby).

    These Elephant Seal diving depth patterns are a serious red flag to changes in thermohaline currents. The Pacific ocean is now discharging more thermal energy than it absorbs- shedding it to the Indian Ocean, and of course, as we witnessed in Texas this year with their ‘4’ 1 in 1,000 year storms (total for US South central is 6 1 in 1,000 year floods).

    I am currently exploring the cache of data that has come back from this project regarding temperature changes, a study came out – ( http://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/20160/ocean-temps-predict-us-heat-waves-50-days-out-study-finds ) – showing that the land temperatures in the US can be tracked to a 6 week prior pattern in the Pacific – I’m thinking these Elephant Seals may teach us even more yet to come.

    Of course if there was funding for more projects, we could always get better data.

    But all that money goes to DoD and who knows where else to fend off some boogey man to justify 1/2 a trillion in spending a year.

    Why – temperatures hot enough to kill a human being over the age of 65? Why -that’s not a threat at all to national security?

    I think the Cedros trench has much to teach us as to just what is changing in Pacific temperature anomalies.

    I don’t live in fear of some political threat, but I direly fear the flooding we witnessed in Louisiana this year and Texas is the beginning of the norm. The US insurance sector can’t cover that – I noticed AIG just sold off it’s Guaranty unit (flood insurance) 2 weeks ago, at a fire sale price for 3.x billion. The Federal government doesn’t have the resources to bail home owners out who have no flood insurance- all that money goes to chasing ghosts in the desert, or creating new threats by provoking natives in foreign countries that just ‘happen’ to have oil and natural gas, one of the very causes of WHY the Elephant Seals are diving less deep and WHY – United States had month after month after month of ‘hottest year on record’ – Even the Health insurance sector can’t handle the damages to the elderly population from these critically growing temperatures.

    Less money spent on DHS – MORE money spent on oceanic monitoring.

    It’s a shame there isn’t funding to do this without intruding in the Seals lives.

    Unfortunately there is no single entity to blame, it’s a large grab bag of private interests, trillions of dollars involved though. Gee- with that kind of money, you could buy the US Presidency and put in anyone you wanted for SCOTUS – DOJ has to answer to SCOTUS, SCOTUS answers to no one, in fact, in the year 2000 we witnessed our first SCOTUS POTUS…So sad to see future generations of humanity that will have advanced beyond our current political ideologies lose out due to greed that has transpired for the last century – chasing money from energy resources. Mossadegh had it right- federalize energy resources. It seems Standard Oil’s Allen Dulles made sure that wasn’t going to be allowed. Gee I wonder what kind of damage Allen could have done as Director of Central Intelligence? One can only imagine, he’s helped make sure the entire ‘classified’ system protects that answer.

    None of this matters to the Elephant Seals though.

    Germany seems to have a good green model in government. Why can’t that happen in the US?

  • Jerry Langford

    Tripwire will show clean

    TAKE A GANDER at RAW sector 60EF9AB247-

    the LAST THING YOU EVER WANT TO SEE

    is LulzE0rs

    That is ALSO VALID across ALL 193 nation states.

    At LEAST the Neanderthals had a DEFAULT UNIFIED VISION FOR HUMANITY

    How is it – proxy of use of nuclear weapons to defend ARBITRARILY DEFINED territories as if static – while we KNOW they are on MOVING DYNAMIC tectonic plates ?

    HOW IS IT ?

    This is anything better.

    Even worse- USING a fabricated threat – as is revealed in the Gehlen cache- FOR capital gain for the corporate oil sector- abusing intelligence agencies – state departments – EXECUTIVE BRANCHES – JUDICIAL BRANCHES….

    At least the Neanderthals had a BETTER LONG TERM MODEL for humanity than ?

  • Jerry Langford

    Don’t EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE HELMS TAPE LANGLEY

    luzle0rs

    I want to see the ENTIRE COMPLEX VACATED – keep the Starbucks at Langley –

    let veterans move in – turn it ALL into apartment complexes

    BLOCK CHAIN TECHNOLOGIES are ALL ABOUT DECENTRALIZED INTELLIGENCE

    The END OF LANGLEY SITS IN THE BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN

    Eh- I have no interest in NSA – short of saying Keith – you CLEARLY didn’t GET PORTER GOSS’S MEMO when he stepped in as DCI that said ‘PLAY BALL OR GET LOST’

    WELL- SEEMS SOME PEOPLE GET REAL LOST

    MY GIRLS

    OH MY

    I can’t EVEN LET MYSELF START UP ON GOSS

    HOWEVER – it IS QUITE INTERESTING – just 14 months after Goss is hired ALMOST LIKE a Kloberg analog ? to Turkey ? Just LOOK what happened….

    MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE is this collection of frames of Porter’s face as what he presumed Flight 93 would be- which wasn’t but – Poor Porter- he looked SO WORRIED – you can watch it yourself – he was spooked before- like a Columbo episode – BEFORE the explosion.

    When WE are done with Goss – he’ll be lucky if Pakistan will take him in – LAST I CHECKED – with China’s new military base in Pakistan in exchange for the port at Gwadar – to which I content will be a SERIOUS pivoting factor in the SHORT future of oil in the Middle East? Eh- China has no desire to help Porter out.

    WORST CASE FOR GOSS AND BUSH ?

    Not MY GIRLS

    By his own invention – Roman.

    LAST SCENE IN TRIPOLI ! FBI ! heh

    Hey – even GOSS can’t figure out where ROMAN is now

    ROMAN has a welcome place at my home- as if he’ll ever be in Western Pennsylvania

    HOWEVER –

    ROMAN is one monster that should never have been created.

    and THIS IS TO YOU PORTER in case you ARE READING THIS

    and I KNOW YOU WILL

    Hey- ROMAN is NOT MY PROBLEM – YOU MADE HIM – YOU DEAL WITH HIM

    Roman who ? WHY ?

    ROMAN… WITH SNOW

    It’s ALL THOSE DAMNED ICICLES PORTER

    it’s an inside reference – no need to explore this for anyone that doesn’t know.

    HOW IS IT ? JUST LIKE THAT – BAM – 22 months – 3 weeks and 4 days- BAM

    HOURS ? eh- I’m not keeping track – but JUST LIKE THAT

    HOW IS IT – LIKE A LIGHT SWITCH

    BAM

    MAKES ONE WONDER

    SPEAKING OF PORTER ?

    ANYONE SEEN PORTER LATELY ?

    I have this strange feeling – he’ll be writing an op-ed in the newly owned purchased from the Bancroft family- Wall Street Journal

    OH NOES ! WSJ – PLEASE TELL ME – WE don’t OWN YOU TOO!

    Luzle0rs

    17 seconds FBI to Scotland Yard- EVEN NSA can’t beat – YOU INCOMPETENT KEITH ALEXANDER.

  • Jerry Langford

    Port at Gwadar COMPLETELY REVERSES EVERYTHING Bush admin EVER sought for Iraq.

    The 60 year contract signed in 1937 – that ENDED in 1997 ?

    NOTICE the INTEREST ALL OF A SUDDEN in the region –

    Condi – coming out of Chevron

    Paul – Secretary of Treasury – LET GO? or quit ? on ‘ALL Bush had to say upon ‘taking’ office was ‘find me a way into Iraq’

    Iraq is THE ONLY CHOICE after that 60 year contract expired.

    NO WHERE in ANY PRESS do I see REFERENCE to this LEGAL CONTRACT BINDING Saudi Arabia signed that expired in 1997-

    and yet ?

    OH WAIT

    MILES COPELAND OUT OF CIA – THE #1 – SOLE – GO TO GUY –

    GEE- Miles must have over FIFTY REFERENCES TO THIS CONTRACT – and the ANTICIPATED RESULTING CIRCUMSTANCES – when it ended…

    It seems Langley ? Miles Copeland ? is going to be QUITE AN EYE SORE FOR YOU

    FOR the INTENT of Miles notes ?

    would convince ANY JURY –

    of his conflict of morals –

    It’s JUST DAMNED STRANGE that it showed up

    FUNNY Langley- I wonder what versions you have

    WE HAVE THE FULLY UNREDACTED NOTES

    NOT QUITE as unfortunate as the United States Department of Justice Office of Special Investigation – ‘PSEUDO’ LEAK to the New York Times- as I SAID – we TOOK EVERYTHING AT NYT.

    HOWEVER – we have MORE than the DOJ EVER LEAKED TO THE NYT.

    FOR

    BE VERY VERY VERY CAREFUL HERE DOJ

    FOR

    ssssshhhhhhhhhhhh

    WE HAVE – and you do NOT

    NOR DOES LANGLEY

    NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE – CONSIDERED Israel’s interests- eh- would be justice

    but we have…

    FAR MORE DAMAGING THAN – well- actually the Saudi’s would celebrate certain aspects of this – it does fit hand in hand with Wahabism – but

    THE GEHLEN CACHE

    DAMN – WE GOT MILES AT LANGLEY AND GEHLEN AT DOJ

    Looks like a flank attack

    it’s NOT AN ATTACK

    it’s CALLED JUSTICE

    and as the world SUFFERS from exploits of nation states- ALL SERVING CORPORATE OIL – ok ok OKAY – AND COAL ?

    It is ALL VERY CLEAR – THAT which Miles was concerned about – and that which CIA USED Gehlen for ?

    ALL HINGE ON ONE VERY CLEAR FACET

    CORPORATE OIL

    and ? hey hey hey – what is it that is threatening the future of ALL OF HUMANITY ?

    SORRY CLOWNS – this circus is over

    LANGLEY ? I SUGGEST YOU EXIT STAGE LEFT

    DOJ ? FBI ? TOTAL RESPECT- I ALWAYS RESPECTED FBI – but DOJ has some BAD EGGS- and has corrupted the entire lot – TRULY SAD – no kidding- some of the BEST – HONEST – people I’ve ever had opportunity to witness are FBI – CIA ? can’t say the same –

    Somewhere between Miles Copeland as to CIA -and Reinhardt Gehlen at DOJ – ok ok OKAY – so the Gehlen cache has some EXTRA JUICY BITS on Klaus Barbie in Miami – NOT RELEASED TO THE New York Times ‘leak’ – painful as it is –

    If ‘OIKOS NOMOS’ in Greek means Order of the House -the ROOT for ECONOMY ?

    “Ώρα να καθαρίσει το σπίτι”

    DO not over react here DOJ – don’t worry – Langley has FAR FAR FAR FAR FARRRRRRRRR MORE TO WORRY ABOUT on Miles’s notes –

    JUST CELEBRATE you are part of a central species – humanity- stop looking at the active process of the uniting of states – as a static concept- ‘THE’ united states- the Chinese will never get it – they don’t have a definite article such as ‘the’ – China will NEVER get ‘THE’ United States – but China MIGHT get the UNITED OF ………………

    I SENSE SOMETHING IMPORTANT

    …… IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN…………

    it’s CALLING OUT……………………..

    THE UNITING OF…………………….

    HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………HUMANITY……..DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS ………………

  • Jerry Langford

    Whoops did I say plot 119 ? MY OH MY

    I must be slipping up

    118

  • Jerry Langford

    I lost ALL faith in FBI in Tbilisi – and FACE

    WHAT THE G’DMD MF HAPPENED IN TBILISI FBI ?

    Hey- Thailand was nice – but hey- LOOK AT THE AFTERMATH OF BOUT

    TOTAL DESTABILIZATION of Vietnam – GOOD LUCK Hmong peoples !

    And now ?

    This RECENT AIR DROP to Quang ?

    ONCE AGAIN FBI ? What ? HOW DID YOU NOT DANCE WITH THE CHOREOGRAPHER ?

    Don’t you UNDERSTAND ? Quang has had THREE VISITS FROM CHINESE OFFICIALS ?

    WHAT ? you think ARMING Vietnam NOW ? to protect against China’s CLAIM on Exxon’s PLOT 119 ? only TWO YEARS OLD ? hmm- JUST HAPPENS TO BE ? oh wait- since it’s NOT CLASSIFIED – Exxon DESERVES TO HAVE IT RELEASED – 8.3 TRILLION in NATURAL GAS?

    WHAT A WONDERFUL SOLUTION – hey – let’s release some MORE METHANE!

    Makes me ill to even draw US Department of State Timothy Towell into this…

    WHAT THE HELL WAS TIMMY TOWELL DOING WITH PORTER GOSS IN BALOCHISTAN ?

    OH NOES – ANOTHER 6 TRILLION IN NATURAL GAS STOLEN FROM THE BALOCHS

    but hey- Porter and Towell- Mr. SHOWS UP IN ARGENTINA after spending just TWO YEARS in Spain learning the language ? SOUTH AMERICA – CHAINED an 18 year MAN old (least he was of age? ) to a bed in D.C. and US STATE DEPARTMENT GIVES TIMMY AN AWARD ?

    I LOST ALL FAITH IN FBI on Tbilisi – it has opened the flood gates for corporate energy

    THIS WILL ALL BE COVERED IN THE GLOBAL CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT

    don’t worry

    IT TAKES COURAGE

    to ENJOY IT

    BEHOLD !

    WHO AT LANGLEY WILL EVER DISPUTE MILES COPELAND’S DATA CACHE DUMPED AT OUR DOOR STEP ?

    FBI ? WHAT ? you going to try and stop this ?

    US State Department ? FEAR OF UPSETTING the Saudi’s ?

    GO RIGHT AHEAD

    It’s ALL LIVE – in the BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN

    YOU CAN’T STOP IT

    ENJOY IT

    IT TAKES COURAGE

    TO ….. (shhhh ENJOY IT)

    SHHHHHHHHH – ENJOY IT

    STAND WITH HUMANITY – and ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS – RESPECT ARISTOTLE

    OR PLEASE

    GET THE F OFF MY RETINA

    I don’t even need me- I’ve already brought closure – it – LIKE THE PINE ISLAND GLACIER in Antarctica –

    that brings IRREVERSIBLE SEA LEVEL RISE –

    IT IS UNSTOPPABLE

    But hey- go ahead- let corporate energy LOBBY

    IT TAKES COURAGE

    IT will BE WELL WORTH IT – we ALMOST SAW A MELTDOWN of the global economy in 2007

    for NOTHING – well- ACTUALLY FBI – we HAVE Bank of America’s newly acquired Country Wide mortgage contracts – FUNNY HOW THE MAJORITY ARE COASTAL PROPERTIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HOW THE F DID YOU MISS THAT ?

    But – If the global economy is DEPENDENT ON OIL and COAL?

    Then I CONTENT – OIL and COAL ARE A THREAT NOT ONLY TO NATIONAL SECURITY

    THEY AREA THREAT TO THE ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY

    and MUST BE ABANDONED AT ALL COSTS

    Financial ideologies are MODELS

    119 in Chicago in 2022 is REAL

    and if US WANTS TO PROTECT US DoD on it’s CLASSIFIED DATA for it’s studies

    then – WHY DON’T YOU RELOCATE THE PENTAGON TO CHICAGO

    F YOU IN ADVANCE

    WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH

    THIS GAME IS OVER

    I sense

    something

    Important….

    Is

    ABOUT

    TO HAPPEN…….

    It TAKES COURAGE……..

    TO ENJOY IT……………………………..

    DOJ FBI ? I RESPECT 99.8% at FBI – GOOD PEOPLE

    BUT I TELL YOU – YOU EITHER GET ON BOARD AND REACH FOR THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY

    or your LONG SOLD OUT NATION STATE MODEL PROXY OF CORPORATE ENERGY

    including

    Fox News

    The Weather Channel

    ABC News

    New York Times

    LIST GOES ON –

    oh yeah – the NYTimes hack ?

    WE TOOK EVERYTHING- but NYT has NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT COMPARED TO FOX NEWS CORPORATION – or should I say- ENERGY LOBBY.

    ALL THESE DAMNED BEARS

    There is ONLY ONE BEAR YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR FBI

    Go watch Bjork’s video called Human Nature

    THAT BEAR – is truly terrifying.

    And if your analysts haven’t figured out my allegory to Bjork’s Big Time Sensuality

    in ALL OF THESE POSTS

    I suggest you explore a cipher – to REALLY DISSECT CONTENT THAT EVEN THE BEST ANALYSTS at CIA – NSA – will NEVER RECOVER.

    Then again – it takes courage…

    Hey – ALL SITTING IN THE BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN

    GOOD LUCK NSA

    You never COULD AFFORD TALENT KEITH ALEXANDER – YOU INCOMPETENT.

  • Jerry Langford

    United States Department of Justice

    right

    meanwhile – we watch agriculture – ? be decimated.

    PROXY of those who exploit investment banking –

    IMF

    MORE TANKERS !

    OH NOES !

    Someone dropped off on OUR DOOR STEP ?

    GET READY LANGLEY

    and FBI

    MILES COPELAND’S ENTIRE BACK DRAFT IMF DATA

    Miles was NEVER A FAN-

    THIS DATA WILL RECTIFY HIM

    Langley? AND FBI you can DECIDE which side you want to stand on

    WE ARE GOING TO ORGANIZE A GLOBAL CLASS ACTION SUIT

    Unfortunately Miles has left ENOUGH EGGS ON THE HUNT TO SINK YOU LANGLEY

    But as to FBI ?

    WHEN THIS GETS RELEASED ?

    You won’t HAVE PENSIONS – so your TRUE HONOR WILL BE TESTED

    As to whether you stand for HUMANITY

    or a nation state that was SOLD OUT FOR CORPORATE ENERGY POST 1952.

    There is not negotiating

    It’s ALREADY LOCKED INTO THE BITCOIN BLOCK CHAIN AS TO POINTERS TO THE SERVERS

    LIVE – READY AND WAITING

    In the mean time- I suggest you get some popcorn – get some bitcoin

    and get ready for a NEW BRAND of fire works to follow a revolution that is going to happen ?

    on ECONOMIC GROUNDS

    NO WEAPONS – just RAW DATA

    LANGLEY sold out humanity a LONG TIME AGO

    LANGLEY is short of Fox News as as corporate oil lobby

    US State Department to the Saudi’s ?

    WHEN THIS COMES OUT ?

    Saudi’s will DUMP SO FAST?

    it will only HELP ERODE this ARTIFICIAL DIVISION OF HUMANITY that has been HARNESSED TO EXPLOIT THE FUTURES OF ALL CHILDREN TO BE BORN

    vs – the corporate gains – hey – Tony Hayward ? WHERE YOU GOIN’ ?

    GET BACK HERE !

    MILES COPELAND LANGLEY

    WE SIT ON THAT

    WE ALSO SIT ON THE GEHLEN CACHE – something that YOU DO NOT

    United States State Department, Central Intelligence Agency and – hmm- let’s START WITH CHEVRON – the arbitrator of ENRON – hmm – WHY WAS ENRON buying up all the land contracts for pipeline projects in Afghanistan ? don’t EVEN GET ME STARTED on the 60 year contract signed in 1937 Miles Copeland was SO DELICATE TO ELUCIDATE UPON in his notes WE HAVE – YOU DO NOT LANGLEY – CLASSIFIED – SCREW YOU – THESE ANTICS HAVE JEOPARDIZED the ENTIRE US INSURANCE SECTOR as they will NOT BE ABLE TO BAIL OUT RECURRING – ‘norm’ FLOODING in US South East/Central- FEMA trailors in LA will NOT SOLVE THIS – NEXT YEAR WILL BE WORSE – this is JUST THE START – WE ALSO HAVE JAPAN’S SPACE ADMINISTRATION ON BOARD- well- not formally- but we have technicians and data from their Ibuki satellite- which UNLIKE THE US TWO SATELLITES – were NOT BLOWN UP – one on launch- the other JUST BEFORE BROADCASTING it’s first data set – FBI WHERE WERE YOU ON THAT ?

    WE ARE ORGANIZING A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST CHEVRON – UNITED STATES STATE DEPARTMENT, UNITED STATES CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY – BP – Saudi Arabia PROXY OF ARAMCO – and we are BACKING IT WITH DATA ALL THANKS TO ?

    Miles Copleland

    OH COME ON LANGLEY – you KNOW MILES was the GO TO GUY –

    ASK YOURSELF THOUGH

    WHAT KIND OF DATA MIGHT HE HAVE KEPT ? that could be DAMAGING TO YOU and your STRAW HORSE?

    STATE DEPARTMENT will be hit hardest

    TREASON ? NO

    JUSTICE ? GLOBALLY ? FOR WHAT IS STILL CONTINUING ?

    PRICELESS

    I say- turn your back on some temporary ideology- territorial nationalism- which – ha- on MOVING TECTONIC PLATES ? HOW SANE IS THAT ? ONE THING

    But you TURN YOUR BACK ON HUMANITY

    THAT …

    IS TABOO

    GET READY DOJ ATTORNEYS – but what ? what’s this ? no sovereign currency to back those pensions after the Saudi’s dump ? AND CHINA ?

    WHAT ?

    YEAH – TAKE THE NESTEA F’NG PLUNGE

    KINDA LIKE THAT

    JOIN US – IN HUMANITY – or sink like a stone –

    for the times

    they are a changin’

  • Jerry Langford

    No where have I read about the OTHER major causal factor I see for slowing of the thermohaline currents.

    It’s not JUST glacial melt diluting saline content, it’s ALSO when sea water doesn’t go through a freezing process where it normally removes salt – which sinks- also creating these deep sea currents.

    We have TWO factors here working against us that are leading to the slowing of the thermohaline currents, and each amplifies the other.

    Just think of it THIS way- when fresh water ice forms from sea water? Where does the salt go? it sinks – and it moves anything in it’s way- this process contributes to driving the deeper thermohaline currents.

    Now – go check out recent data on North Pole ice cap this year, and next years anticipated coverage.

    Factor THAT in with the record glacial melt in Greenland? Where the currents arguably ‘begin’ –

    one LAST issue I never see addressed in any press…

    The US East Coast sea level is actually 15 feet lower than it would be BECAUSE of the thermohaline currents. It PULLS water OUT – AWAY from the coast. As the currents slow, that 15 foot deficit – guess what happens there? It’s not centimeters per decade, it’s feet per year.

    Woods Hole research I observe shows unequal distribution of sea level rise for US East Coast, of ALL places, the highest ? was where NYC is.

    So there is an ARTIFICIAL DEFICIT of 15 feet sea level retention BECAUSE of the thermohaline currents, and we’re about to see the effects of this ‘record 50 degree F rise at North Pole’ this year. We ALSO will see the effects of JUST ONE INSTANCE breaking it – as I said, if no new ice forms yearly ? no desalination – no salt sinks –

    This is NOT good.

    Forget ‘terrorism’ this is – decimation of the US East Coast when that 15 feet sea level deficit starts to ease as the currents slow- as that deficit of 15 feet was CAUSED BY the currents, which ? are slowing.

    Do the math.

  • Jerry Langford

    This is a MOST important story here. Easily the most important looking forward as to climate change.

    Wonderful catch.

  • Jerry Langford

    So often I read glacial melt is at cause for slowing thermohaline currents by diluting the dense salt water, preventing it from sinking.

    I have now realized, it’s the freezing of sea water, that removes the salt, which sinks – pushing water deeper down out of the way. Therefore, it’s not so much the melting, it’s if we don’t have the process of freezing sea water that will crash the global conveyor belt.

    To this, with record 50 degree F increase this year (fluke?) at North Pole? with decreasing yearly ice formation? We can expect a serious slowdown in thermohaline currents.

    My anticipation is without stronger deeper currents, we can witness the Pacific starting to just bake, in fact, just this year the Pacific for the first time started releasing MORE thermal energy than it absorbs.

    I do not think these 100 degree temperatures in the United States, month after month – record highs in all of recorded temperatures? is a fluke.

    I think this is now the norm.

    It could escalate very fast – all it takes is a breakdown at North or South Pole, in the thermohaline cycle where freezing used to release salt from the seawater as fresh water ice was formed. Indeed, freezing is a way to desalinate ! No freezing? no desalination, no desalination? no salt sinking, no salt sinking? no currents – no currents? no warmth for Europe and excessive heat for North America.

    We are 3.8 degrees above normal (F), all it takes is to reach 9 and US agriculture collapses.

    We simply can’t afford any more record temperatures, who can afford $12 a loaf of bread? We already have China buying up most of the world grain production.

    Forget the Perfect Storm about some greedy swordfisherman – this is something else entirely.

    VERY good story for this is the first sign to see thermohaline weakening post South Pole.